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ROSLYN: You've reached the Love and Luck Podcast.

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JASON: Hey, it's Jason! I told you I'd be the first one to call after our date this time!

I had such a good time last night. You know, I never actually did the whole making out at the movies thing as a teenager, probably from being the only gay in the village when I lived in the sticks, but anyway, now I seriously think I was missing out. It was a good cherry to pop with you, though.

You're a really good kisser, in case I haven't already told you that. A lot of guys get overexcited and it feels a bit like they're trying to eat me. But you take it slow, and you sort of wade into it rather than throwing yourself into it all at once... and that's a huge turn on, actually. Like, every time you kiss me I want more, because you like... draw me in rather than push against me. It's intense and soft at the same time. I love it. I want to do a lot more of it.

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KANE: [Flustered] Wow. I... hmm. I'd love to leave some kind of smooth and sexy message in reply to that, but honestly I'm... just... [Intake of breath] Yeah. We should do more kissing. Definitely.

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KANE: Oh my god Jason, I just went to listen to that voicemail again and apparently you left it at four o'clock in the morning?? What the hell?

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JASON: [Amused] Hey. I stay up late a lot, what can I say?

And you were on my mind... While I was staying up late. Thinking about you. You and your kissing, and your body... which is amazing, by the way, and you should show it off more.

Hey, I know, there's a underwear party coming up at the Laird this Monday, wanna go with me?

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KANE: Oh jeez. I don't know if I feel brave enough for an underwear party. Cis queer guys can get a little weird about guys like me being around in situations like that.

Even if I was brave enough, though, I can't really do Monday. I'll be exhausted from work and I'm probably just going to want to blob on the couch and watch netflix.

I could do... casual relaxing Monday thing, or I could do a party on the Saturday before, if either of those options work for you? Or we could do both, if you wanted to stay over on Saturday with me. Hell, you can stay over all weekend if you like.

I mean, you don't have to do that, like, stay with me all weekend, I mean - I'm definitely okay with just the Saturday or Monday night. It was just an idea, whatever works for you is fine!

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JASON: Hey, I'd love to spend the weekend with you. That sounds really, really nice. Just let me know what time to come around on Saturday.

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KANE: Hey, it's me. Are you sure you're okay to spend that much time with me? I mean... I'm a real homebody and I know you're into much more active and wilder stuff. I don't want you to get bored with me or something, I don't know.

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JASON: Hey... I definitely want to spend that much time with you. I don't think I'll get bored. I kind of like the quiet moments with you.

Look... I know we only met to hook up, but like... I'm really into you. I mean, you're right, we're totally different. You're not the sort of guy I'd have gone looking for in a boyfriend, but you know what, I think that's kind of good, in a way. I've dated some real arseholes, you know? So I clearly don't really know what's best for me, you know what I mean?

But you feel... good for me. I feel good when I'm with you. I feel like we balance each other out.

Plus, you're like, really hot.

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JASON: Uh, hey, it's me again. Look, I didn't mean to say that we're boyfriends, you know? I mean, we haven't talked about that. That word hasn't come up.

And that's fine! I mean, it's fine that it hasn't come up. It's also fine if you don't want to be boyfriends! We can just keep things like, cool and casual. We don't have to do, like, the relationship thing, if that's not your thing, you know? Like... whatever you want, or think, or whatever, is totally fine. No pressure here.

Like, I'm kind of sorry I even said that, now? I didn't mean to sound, like, clingy, or whatever? So, like, yeah, uh, sorry for saying boyfriend. I mean, even though I didn't actually call you my boyfriend, I just said that I wouldn't have looked at a guy like you for a boyfriend. Which... that sounds bad. That's not...

What I mean to say is, it's not like you'd be a bad boyfriend! I mean, I'm not saying we couldn't be boyfriends, like, I'm not saying that you're not boyfriend material or something, you know? Because you totally are boyfriend material. Like, seriously. But I mean, not unless you want to be, you know?

So, uh, don't feel pressured, you know, either way. I definitely didn't mean to say boyfriend. Unless you do actually want to be boyfriends, in which case, like, we can totally talk about that! But don't feel like, you know, I'm necessarily looking for that? I'm totally cool with keeping things casual, or not, or whatever.

[Quietly, to himself] Fuck, stop talking.

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KANE: Hey so... that last voicemail was kind of confusing? I'm not really clear on whether you're trying to say that you want to be my boyfriend, or if you're trying to say that you definitely don't want to be my boyfriend.

So, uh... you know, asking directly, do you want to be boyfriends?

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KANE: Hey, it's Kane. Um... I didn't hear back from you yesterday, and I'm just wondering if I did or said something wrong, or if you're just not interested in hanging out any more? It's totally fine either way, I'd just like to know.

And... if I did do something wrong, I'm really sorry.

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JASON: Hey Kane, it's Jason. Sorry for... everything. The weird voicemails, and then not getting back to you... I'm really sorry for disappearing like that.

You didn't do anything wrong. I'm the dickhead. I kind of freaked out, and instead of being a grown up about it and dealing with it, I just kind of... withdrew and avoided the whole thing. I... I won't do that again. I'm really sorry.

I... would still really like to come over on Friday, if that's okay? I totally get it if this has kind of soured you on me, though. Yeah. Let me know.

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KANE: Hey, I'm really glad you're okay and not mad at me. I'd still really like you to come over on Friday. We can talk about whatever it is that's freaking you out, yeah? Figure out some way of dealing with it. I'll let you know when my shift finishes exactly and maybe we can meet after work and go home together.

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JASON: Hey... yeah, that sounds really good.

Also... [deep breath] Yes. I would like to be your boyfriend.

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KANE: Hey. I'd like to be your boyfriend, too. See you on Friday.

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ROSLYN: Love and Luck is written by Erin Kyan, and produced by Passer Vulpes Productions. Kane is voiced by Lee Davis-Thalbourne. Jason is voiced by Erin Kyan. Credits spoken by Roslyn Quin. Recorded by Kermie Breydon.

The Laird Hotel is a real men's only gay pub in Abbotsford, Melbourne. It is the longest running men's only gay hotel in Australia. You can check them out at lairdhotel.com. And yes, the first monday of every month is the Underwear Party!

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